Hello Sarah. I don't mind adding an extra $300.00 for you just to take down the posting..I am already in talks with freighters that will handle the pickup and delivery .I will really appreciate if you can email more info. I will need your Account name, BSB and Account number. Sergeant Connor said some members of a syndicate in Brisbane had been charged but their victims were spread across south-east Queensland. and why are you selling if you don't mind my asking. Tel: 312-621-1200 (Ext 255-252-212) Once you transfer the money TO a seller, there is no gurantee the seller will send the item. Thankfully another very similar email (same story lime as able) raised suspicion and I was saved in time. HAH! As long as people like yourself ignore those whopping big letters on Gumtree that say " GUMTREE IS FOR FACE TO FACE TRANSACTIONS ONLY DO NOT SEND MONEY", there will always be scammers because there are people silly enough to feed them. Of course, this is fraud and how long it would go on for depends on how often you check your account. Ironically, it was he who suggested I could be a scammer. Lucas - you and your friend are quite right to be alarmed over PayPal's self-serving and frankly, downright illegal interests. He hasn't even bothered changing it which goes to show how useless our complaining is. Someone contacted me offering to pay the price I have requested. I contacted Ron hicks and demand cash or a bank transfer. In terest bearing with $500 minimum balance for US Based consumer accounts. Pity what the world has come to. Total nightmare. You should also make sure your internet banking is secure with a strong password, and monitor your accounts for suspicious activity. "If you're selling the item online and someone wants to buy the item sight unseen then that should be a bit of an alarm bell. Your bank account requires a BSB and account number. Most rigs do not have doctors on board. FYI - this is details from scam email I received 8 Sept 2019, The EXACT same thing just happened to me!!! Personally, for gumtree i only do cash on pickup. No exceptions, no discussions, no deliveries, no bank transfers and no PayPal or any online transactions! Have a nice day and plz inform other buyers you sold it and take the ads off the site as am ready to purchase it right away. Like I said earlier, I'm very busy with my job as I currently work as Marine official, so I will be paying you online via my PayPal account which is attached to my bank account because it is the only form of payment that I have access to right now and also because of its good security nature. does it need anything to be replace or repair? Scammers then insist on immediately transferring money by electronic bank transfer, before sending a photograph of a fake receipt and a copy of a fraudulently obtained driver's licence. He spent the whole day ringing Paypal (and go se how long it takes to even FIND their number let alone speak to a human) and his bank before now having to change bank account numbers. The transaction occurs via email, where the scammer says they will pay via PayPal. Same story happened to me. Call 0300 123 2040 or use their online cybercrime reporting form. Paypal will protect you to an additional layer by not leaving your credit card details in systems for years that are subject to security breaches. My dad is selling a laptop on gumtree and someone phoned him tonight and offered him the asking price. I have also contacted my courier who will come for pick up and deliver it to my place in Darwin after the whole fund has been cleared into your account. "If someone's quite pushy in trying to collect the item as soon as possible after providing a transfer receipt, that's another tell-tale sign.". we do not have access to phone at the moment,which is why I contacted you with internet messaging facility. I am selling a ute on gumtree I was contacted via email and offered asking price and an extra $300 to take the add down, Daniel Jonothab asked for my bsb and account details which I stupidly gave. I need your PayPal Full name and email address so i can send the money now. How on earth do they use this to scam? Regarding the payment,pls get back to me with your final asking price and your paypal details so i can process the payment,you can alternatively send your bsb and acct number if you have no paypal acct.I have also contacted my courier who will come for pick up after the whole fund has been cleared into your acct. he says to pay buy bank transfer and they will be sent recorded post, also another person says i can pay buy paypal but it just seems dodgy to me check these links out and tell me what you think, thaaanking you . The above responses are invaluable to me. AEST = Australian Eastern Standard Time which is 10 hours ahead of GMT (Greenwich Mean Time). So they are still red hot at it! I don't mind adding an extra $300.00 for you just to take down the posting..I am already in talks with freighters that will handle the pickup and delivery .I will really appreciate if you can email more info. Every other payment system including paypal is vulnerable to scams. True. Due to the nature of my work i am a very busy woman working all day, we're presently on the sea, i don't have access to my bank account online as am not with my credit card details here but i have my ANZ bank account link up with my PayPal account so I will be paying you through PayPal to your nominated bank account or better still is if you have a PayPal account,please get back to me with your BSB and account details or PayPal account so i can proceed with the payment and contact the courier agent who will come to pick it up and deliver it in NT for my son. I work with Flagship Marine and we are presently offshore in New Zealand. Please contact me. The fraudster will suggest sending you a cheque, pay via bank transfer or send you money online, but âby mistakeâ overpay you. Just got one to, literally 30mins after putting the post up. to me. So, we nurses perform with significant autonomy, and make medical decisions when necessary) I don't need to know this. Hi all, It happened to my business partner today. account with PayPal on their website it takes less than 2 minutes and I Wanted to pay via PayPal linked to his ANZ account. I thought it was weird they were asking if it was still up for sale because I had just listed it. Thanks so much everyone for sharing these messages from Gumtree scammers! "The unfortunate thing is when whoever these guys sell this to, when they go to update the machine it won't work as it's been reported stolen â it's going to be useless machine.". Chris at Launceston Tas So glad to see Exactly the same scenario as happened to me today. Please don't trust this kind of weird goings on. Money transfer apps like Venmo, Zell and Cash App have been growing in popularity during the pandemic -- but 8News has uncovered scammers have found a way with to use Cash App to con you of your cash. "We do believe that word of mouth between the criminals has got out and it's now become more widespread," he said. Am i being scammed on gumtree? I don't mind adding an extra $100.00 for you just to take down the posting..I am already in talks with freighters that will handle the pickup and delivery .I will really appreciate if you can email more info, Due to the nature of my work i am a very busy man working all day, am a (Operating officer) am presently on-board, i don't have access to my bank account online as am not with my credit card details here but i have my ANZ bank account link up with my PayPal account so I will be paying you through Account to your nominated bank account or better still is if you have a PayPal account ,please get back to me with your BSB and account details or PayPal account so i can proceed with the payment and contact the courier agent who will come to pick it up and deliver it in NT for my son .Await your reply. with the following information: 1)Your full name I think this may be better suited for the scams subreddit but doesn't look like they have a UK section and no doub they'll probably be unfamiliar with Gumtree. This service may include material from Agence France-Presse (AFP), APTN, Reuters, AAP, CNN and the BBC World Service which is copyright and cannot be reproduced. The first message he sent me (which I've found elsewhere online) was: "Is there anything I need to know about it? That can't be right - or it can just very uncommon). Lol anyway here is his reply to my intial email. So I played the waiting game, nothing happened so reported as scam. I can't believe I was so naive and really wish I had seen this article first. This is very late to the party, but this would only then mean you need to swipe a statement from the bank if the target still uses paper bills.. the "reference numbers" are 2 sub 5c amounts deposited into your account. He responded with: "Good, I can only make the payment from my PayPal to your PayPal account or I will report this to Gumtree immediately. Something was off so I google and found this page and cancelled the sale. Just almost got scammed. The buyer should not be able to access your funds with just a BSB and account number. It also says banks must try to identify customers who are at higher risk of becoming a victim, warn customers when they've spotted a scam and try to delay payments while investigating potential scams.It's worth noting the code only applies to transfers betweeâ¦ Best form of payment to not get scammed (Gumtree) organic355. ING Direct says it is safe to give out your details but it recommends you monitor your account for unauthorised transactions. The article is accurate - BSB and account numbers aren't a risk for withdrawals against you. Thanks for the response,I would have loved to call you directly but due to the nature i work with the The Australian Army Corps. If you don't feel cold hard cash in your hands, you do not give your goods to anyone. Other than notifying my bank how do I avoid identity theft and fraud? An anonymous number gave me a text from GeoOp asking to e-mail Michelle Dobbins on firstname.lastname@example.org. The scammer sends a message to the Seller, asking the seller to email them. Australian banks also have sophisticated fraud protection systems in place to catch suspicious transactions," says Marshall. "Am Glad to read back from you because I would have loved to call you directly but due to the nature of my work we do not have access to phone at the moment,which is why I contact only contact you via email. i just gave someone the account name bsb and account number. Luckily it set of alarm bells and I rang PayPal who assured me that it's fake and they Never ask for items to be shipped before payment. 1:46 PM (3 hours ago) Or you will end up posting on OzBargain with the other hundred "got scammed on gumtree" threads. 2) Paypal email address, The reality is that you would also need to know the billing address in the very small chance the user is still receiving regular paper bills. We do not have access to phone at the moment, its 5days off and 25days on which is why I contacted you with internet messaging facility. Where is it located at the moment? I suspect I will receive no further contact from Kim Phillips! Not even going outside to wash off the dust but I gave a PayPal invoice to receive payment but then came the sob story about needing me to pay the courier first and Mr Big Bucks Oil Rig Job will pay me back, but the courier has to be paid via his/her PayPal. "So unless you forfeit your details to someone else, it will be difficult for them to create a PayID linked to their account using your personal details.". "With the NPP comes PayID, which allows you to use your phone number or email address rather than a BSB or account number as a simpler form of identification when sending or receiving payments," says Mozo's Marshall. Again this check was bad saying that it is a closed account. We did it the old-fashioned way - he sent me a cheque. 3)Address for pickk up When can I inspect it? I smelt a rat, slowly I'll admit but mainly as I thought it unusual to get pretty much the same story (of being offshore and not having a phone) from two different people within minutes of ad posted and further one of the people first said he was Mark and in a later email his address was James. Obviously its clear those are scam emails and steer clear, but if its not obvious to you, and the emails are rather pointlessly lengthy and focus more bout PayPal payment than the actual item, ask a friend, report or ignore. This just happened to me!! They then link your bank account to the Paypal account they set up using nothing more than an email address (i.e. Most rigs do not have nurses on board. The scammer sends a message to the Seller, asking the seller to email them. Queensland police said the scam originated in Brisbane but had become increasingly prevalent across south-east Queensland. Live: Brisbane locals await decision on lifting three-day lockdown, Will the Greater Brisbane lockdown be lifted today? their) Paypal account. (We are offering ' POD', âIN-TRUST â and âTRUSTâ Accounts) Contact Details: email@example.com , firstname.lastname@example.org. I cannot take calls or make one during this mission because it is prohibited, we are allowed to use internet facility only and I squeezed out time to search for the advert because I want the courier agent to deliver it to my new house in Riverton, South Australia before my arrival. No. John (not his real name) from the Sunshine Coast handed over a diagnostic mechanics tool that retails for about $13,000, but did not receive the money for the sale. Thanks for the response,I would have loved to call you directly but due to the nature of my work we do not have access to phone at the moment,which is why I contact only contact you via email. 10 min ago I received an sms and email with the exact same story but with a different name, from someone working in the mining in NT asking for my PP or BSB as I want to sell a suitcase in gumtree. I figured it was a scam but wanted to confirm it so I replied to him. Follow our live coverage for the latest news on the coronavirus pandemic. As regards the payment, i don't have access to my bank account online as am not with my credit card details here but i have my ANZ bank account link up with my PayPal account so I will be paying you through Account to your nominated bank account or better still is if you have a PayPal account ,please get back to me with your BSB and account details or PayPal account so i can proceed with the payment And again i have sent some of my co-worker to search this for me so you can see this kind of email so deal with me directly. Commonwealth Bank says that providing account details to a third party to receive or debit funds occurs daily and while this is OK it does advise that "any personal information, including banking details, should only be given if there is genuine need for a third party to know the details, ie, to receive funds or to set up a regular direct debit". He said members of the community should also be very careful to whom they sent copies of their identification, as this was regularly ending up in the hands of fraudsters. And i dont believe there are any PayPal fees for what would be personal transfers, and with all the repeated phrases about payment via PayPal (counted "PayPal" 7 times in one email) a real person wouldn't need lengthy and repetitive sob stories explaining further sob stories to buy a simple secondhand bed or car or old dog blanket from gumtree. Putting this aside, though, unauthorised direct debits from accounts can and do occur. me to take my ad down immediately, and asking for ymy full name BSP and account number and where did I live (address not emailed but suburb and city was provided). and why are you selling it if you don't mind my asking. But I'm able to access email anytime as we will make use of laptop so my only quickest payment option is PayPal as i can send money via PayPal anytime. I was then told funds would be transferred but I needed to pay a courier $950 first I started to cotton on at this point and told him this is too werid and too much fuss for an old ute. reply him directly via (email@example.com) now". Out of curiosity I emailed her. 12 Sept 2018 However, I was lucky in that respect because most people just lay down and swallow whatever bullshit PayPal dishes out without realizing they DO have the legal right to fight back. After a few more web searches, it appeared Anita's story was doing the rounds. I just put an add on Gumtree last night and within 12 minutes I got a SMS on my phone asking to communicate via email. "The reason that they're targeting these higher value items is because they are then offloading these items using fake accounts â usually on Gumtree or Facebook â for quite reduced prices but obviously any profit they make is 100 per cent profit to them," he said. And was curious why they wanted my email address outside of gumtree messaging ... of course now I realise why... and why they wanted my paypal account details. Do not trust online traders who ask you to transfer money because they are offshore.". Word for word with my potential buyer......there must be a catch. Print and digital subscriptions available. Every day scammers are inventing new ways to rob you of your money. I am buying it for my new apartment and i want it delivered before my arrival.I won't be able to come for the inspection due to the nature of my work and i would have called but our calling is restricted. of these types of emails. "Many Australian banks are working to ensure payments using NPP will be protected by their own fraud and security initiatives," says Marshall. The voluntary code commits banks that are signed up to it to a series of measures to tackle APP fraud, such as educating customers about scammers and how they work. Published by Aimee Davis. Also contact Gumtree and let them know what has happened or, if you are suspicious of any ad or buyer/seller then double check with Gumtree before committing to buying or selling an item. In the news article from ABC News, scammers were contacting people who were trying to sell their cars. Thanks for the response,am ready to buy the it and pay $4,700 by paypal and including PayPal surcharges since i am interested in the immediate purchase for my In-Law as a surprise gift he just moved to the Darwin where this is needed and i will be making use of a shipping company to have this picked up from you and have it delivered to him .Further arrangements will be made with you in regards to the pick up once i have paid you,advice soon i am an oceanographer and due to the nature of my work, phone calls making and visiting of website are restricted but i squeezed out time to check this advert and send you an SMS regarding it. Your options for recovery if goods aren't received is close to nil. If you are still concerned, we recommend you contact your bank. I just received a text message from someone named 'Jane Brock' saying she was interested to buy my gym equipment and advised she will transfer the money on paypal and asked me to share my bank account details. Due to the nature of my work i am a very busy man working all day,am a Marine official, i don't have access to my bank account online as am not with my credit card details here but i have my ANZ bank account link up with my PayPal account so I will be paying you through PayPal to your nominated bank account or better still is if you have a PayPal account ,please get back to me with your BSB and account details or PayPal account so i can proceed with the payment and contact the courier agent who will come to pick it up and deliver it in NT for my son .Await your reply .Best regards. I am A middle-aged Queensland man with a history in criminal investigation says falling victim to an online scam is a reminder that anyone can be targeted. When something is too good to be true, it isn't true. So, we nurses perform with significant autonomy, and make medical decisions when necessary. What if BSB, account number AND the name of your account was given? So I gave up the grog, Scooter stolen in a 'ruse' involving fake money and 'bits of paper', Police investigating alleged murder of man stabbed in Ingham street, Family jumps into Murray River to escape boat fire near Blanchetown. Below is the email I received. Phew, just got one in response to my car listing, Wizkid Davido Sure it requires a bit more set up but would then allow a correctly set up scammer to be totally 100% untraceable (you could then make purchases to another household address, track and intercept, or you could order items delivered to an empty house etc..) from there you could monetize the asset or just revel in your new, and free 70 inch flat screen, or whatever. But, there are no guarantees your bank will be able to recover the money through chargeback. Thank you everyone. I live in Canberra, and reading your exchange with him, he told you that his daughter lives in the ACT :) The scammers operate by contacting sellers and asking to buy items such as cars, machinery and mechanical parts, valued between $1,000 and $25,000, sight unseen. Youâll then be asked to pay them back the extra. Some businesses are more cautious and verify that the nominated direct debit account is yours by asking for some kind of proof but whenever I've registered a direct debit no checks were involved. (Of course it is, I just posted my ad?) I asked for a scanned copy of the prospective buyers drivers licence before I will release my bank account details. Same through happened to me... selling a car... got 4! Although I write about Gumtree, the scam detailed below can be perpetrated on any public buying and selling website. Selling a ute and the offer to purchase came from onboard a Navy vessel so direct contact could not be made however a courier car transporter would pick up the vehicle and money would be transferred to my bank. 4)Your personal mobile #, Kindly get back to me with your paypal email address or better still you can send me a paypal invoice so that i can complete the transaction. John is the latest to be targeted by a syndicate of scammers operating on online trading sites, predominantly Gumtree, using doctored receipts to take items without paying. Dodgy f**k. I reported him to Gumtree but it obviously doesn't do much good. I said it's too dodgy for me to do so. If possibly so, what can you do to prevent or stop this? "There are a number of layers to the fraud. A Real Girl's Guide to Money: From Converse to Louboutins. In total I receive 3 bad checks. I'm very pleased this site is following this. "However, like your BSB and account number, your PayID can only be used to receive funds - it can never be used to take money from your account. The answer is a big fat NO. firstname.lastname@example.org has just written to me, wanting me to take down my add for a camera lens and send it to his kid in Tasmania. Almost immediately after posting my bed set I got a text asking if the 'furniture' was still available, and could I reply to this email email@example.com. I work for Fly In Fly Out (FIFO)Mining Oil and Gas and we are presently in remote area .We do not have access to phone at the moment and that's why I contacted you with internet messaging facility. HI Nicole, ASIC has warned against insider trading, but what exactly is it? Apparently, this charity didn't require a signature to set up a direct debit but it would be a little harder to do it in Australia as signatures are generally required. Since I'm requesting this transaction to be done via PayPal, i will be responsible for all the paypal charges on this transaction and if you do not have an account with paypal, its pretty easy, safe and secured to open one. How do I know this? 20mins after stating the below. What would impeachment mean for US President Donald Trump? "Thanks a lot for the email. I would appreciate if you email me with more pictures (if available) too since i won't be be able to see this in person,what's the PayPal email to send funds to in order for me to pay you ASAP,And if you don't have a paypal account, it is very easy to set up, go to www.paypal.com.au and get it set up. hotukdeals is a community for deal seekers. Does it have any history I should be aware of? Why would you pay $300 for me to take down the listing? I only use gumtree for local things I can collect. I'm thinking sure u can have this rust bucket just send the $$ first. At that point I realized it's fraud, because the agent sits in Malaysia. TOTAL SCAM. I am already in talks with the courier that will handle the pick-up and delivery it in NT. Yeah right. Not only was this buyer quick to respond but she didn't even discuss the price, even though I said it was negotiable. Your money might be long gone now, hope you get it sorted and sheâs not a scammer but just busy. What happened in your case in the end? John said people should never sell items without first having money in the bank or in the hand. The rest played out like a typical scam. I got the exact same wording as above but mine is from George, who offered me and extra $200 to take the ad down! He believed he had engaged in a legitimate transaction on the trading website Gumtree. So I googled the dangers of giving bank account details and came across this article - thank you :). But in fact the cheque is forged, the bank transfer hasnât happened at all or the payment receipt youâve received to your email is fake. The good news about PayPal scams is that there are several actionable steps merchants can take to prevent or avoid them. Technically, if somebody has your account details, they could set up a direct debit and have their insurance or gym membership paid courtesy of your bank account. You should also make sure your internet banking is secure with a strong password, and monitor your accounts for suspicious activity. How far has the UK COVID-19 variant spread and what pace is it moving at? ie Direct debit agreement where payment goes to a merchant, as per the Clarkson example provided. I want it to be the perfect graduation gift for him and am making it a surprise package as well ,Does it have any history I should be aware of? We recommend reporting the scam to Gumtree and ceasing all contact with the buyer. hotukdeals.com - The Largest Deal Community in the UK. We do not have access to phone at the moment,which is why I contacted you with internet messaging facility. I will not be able to meet you for inspection and collection, but I have a personal representative courier agent that will meet you for collection after payment has been made, the courier agent will also handle and sort all paper work or registration if needed on this purchase when they meet you for collection. Find out How to report a scam or fraud. I have also contacted my courier who will come for pick up and deliver it to Darwin after the whole funds has been cleared into your acct. Err on the side of caution. Someone you are dealing with knows your name and your bank account. Do you know who buys a 2nd hand vehicle over price and wants it shipped 2000km without even inspecting? As the story says, scammers won't be able to access funds in your account without a PIN, ID or online banking information. I replied asking if she was local to me and if a bank transfer or cash on collection would be possible. 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